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of the department of defense. which is the office of research and engineering. that became the defense advanced research project which is the subject of my next book. a shameless plug. yes you. [applause] >> see talked about the russian and was there a reason for this? remapped they couldn't stand the german scientist. and that's a very interesting question. but they sent them back to germany and we had a program that was called operation dragon return. and we scooped up anyone who had been in the soviet union working on the weapons program and use them as intelligent asset area. >> is it true that allen dulles was sort of the front man and he was setting up the cia? >> good question. he was at camp king and he was the head heller soviet intelligence program on the soviet union intelligence program. he became a major player in all of this, sadly. and his story is interwoven into this, but he is at camp king with his team of officers and former intelligence agents and they were all run by the army intelligence and the cia took them over. so then the soviet spies who were talking to them and subj
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